I called in to my favourite podcast:
www.focusandfury.com
and ended up in episiode 39. The guys gave a pretty detailed response to my question, which was awesome.
Thursday, June 24, 2010
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Taking Stock, where to go now
So, totting it up the other day, I've now got 138 pts of stuff for Menoth outside of the casters, which is a fair bit.
The list of what I have:
Warcasters:
Reznik
Harbinger
pSeverius
Jacks
Avatar
Fire of Salvation
Blessing of Vengeance
Plastic Combo-jack
Units
Full KEE with UA
Full Temple Flameguard with UA
Full Holy Zealots with UA, plus a couple extra
Knights Errant
Full Bastions
Full Cinerators
2 x min Choir
Solos:
Vilmon
Covenant
Hierophant
Reclaimer
Vassal Mechanik
Wracks
KEE Seneschal
Stuff I have ordered but has not yet arrived:
Warcasters:
pKreoss
Warjacks:
Crusader
Repenter
Revenger
Reckoner
Units:
Daughters of the Flame
Solos
2 Vassals
So totting it up, I'm getting to the point where I have a very soild list of models to choose an army from. After a few extra bits and pieces to round things out, it will be time to work out what to have a crack at next.
There are a couple of different directions to head in:
- Tier lists for a bit of fun
- Develop two 50pt tourney lists (and a 100pt list) for Nationals in September.
I'll probably go with the tier option first, as I'll want to go for the tourney stuff as we go closer to the date.
I'll have to have a good look at the tier lists and work out which ones sound appealing. I definitely want to have a cracka at Reznik, as 7 pt Reckoners sound amazing. Just need to get a second one and some Flameguard Cleansers and we're cooking with gas.
I'll really need to become more familar with tourney style play to really get my head around what I want from my tourney lists.
The list of what I have:
Warcasters:
Reznik
Harbinger
pSeverius
Jacks
Avatar
Fire of Salvation
Blessing of Vengeance
Plastic Combo-jack
Units
Full KEE with UA
Full Temple Flameguard with UA
Full Holy Zealots with UA, plus a couple extra
Knights Errant
Full Bastions
Full Cinerators
2 x min Choir
Solos:
Vilmon
Covenant
Hierophant
Reclaimer
Vassal Mechanik
Wracks
KEE Seneschal
Stuff I have ordered but has not yet arrived:
Warcasters:
pKreoss
Warjacks:
Crusader
Repenter
Revenger
Reckoner
Units:
Daughters of the Flame
Solos
2 Vassals
So totting it up, I'm getting to the point where I have a very soild list of models to choose an army from. After a few extra bits and pieces to round things out, it will be time to work out what to have a crack at next.
There are a couple of different directions to head in:
- Tier lists for a bit of fun
- Develop two 50pt tourney lists (and a 100pt list) for Nationals in September.
I'll probably go with the tier option first, as I'll want to go for the tourney stuff as we go closer to the date.
I'll have to have a good look at the tier lists and work out which ones sound appealing. I definitely want to have a cracka at Reznik, as 7 pt Reckoners sound amazing. Just need to get a second one and some Flameguard Cleansers and we're cooking with gas.
I'll really need to become more familar with tourney style play to really get my head around what I want from my tourney lists.
Long Weekend Action - Part 3
Got ina couple mroe 50 pt games vs Skell on Monday - we decided to try out scenario play for the first time, and actually both brought a pair of lists.
First game was killbox, and I elected to bring Reznik while Skell brought pGaspy. I was hoping the much more restricted killbox would allow me to get a bead on gaspy. In this game, Skell was pretty much kicking my arse all over the tbale for the most part, until I managed to get into gAspy with a perditioned Templar using beatback, which was pretty sweet. First time I'd given the Templar a go, and it proved to be a solid jack. Still taking the Reckoner over it when it arrives though! I'm also keen to try out the sidestepping Dervish.
Second game we played a scenario that doesn't actually exist lol. In this one, there were 3 objectives along the middle of the table, and needed to score three points starting bottom of the second. What we didn't realise was that one of the objectives was supposed to disappear after turnone, but ah well. This time it was pSevvy vs the Coven, and Sevvy pretty much dominated the game. This was Skells first time running the Coven, and I think he conclouded that his list needed to change a fair bit to be effective.
First game was killbox, and I elected to bring Reznik while Skell brought pGaspy. I was hoping the much more restricted killbox would allow me to get a bead on gaspy. In this game, Skell was pretty much kicking my arse all over the tbale for the most part, until I managed to get into gAspy with a perditioned Templar using beatback, which was pretty sweet. First time I'd given the Templar a go, and it proved to be a solid jack. Still taking the Reckoner over it when it arrives though! I'm also keen to try out the sidestepping Dervish.
Second game we played a scenario that doesn't actually exist lol. In this one, there were 3 objectives along the middle of the table, and needed to score three points starting bottom of the second. What we didn't realise was that one of the objectives was supposed to disappear after turnone, but ah well. This time it was pSevvy vs the Coven, and Sevvy pretty much dominated the game. This was Skells first time running the Coven, and I think he conclouded that his list needed to change a fair bit to be effective.
Sunday, June 13, 2010
Long Weekend Highlander Goodness - Chunky part 2
On the Sunday we played a Highlander event at Ace Comics and Games. The list I took was:
Reznik
Fire of Salvation
Errants + UA
Hierophant
First game was a Menoth civil War against Owen, who had brought Kreoss along to the party.Owen actually brought less points than he could have, so he was at a disadvantage, but Kreoss' feat would be a big problem. This turned out to be the case, but Kreoss failed his assassination attempt via spells. This gave Reznik an avenue to charge him the following turn if he could get past a free striking Exemplar. He squeezed by on one wound and put Kreoss on a wrack!
Lesson learnt: KReoss feat is nasty, but needs some ranged weapons to back it up.
Next I played Juffo-Wup with Cygnar, who had Stryker along with a Defender, Strom Blads (Knights - they all looks the same to me). Snipe + Earthquake + Disruption was always going to make this one tough. I tried to get up there as quickly as possible, but an ill-advised attempt to use Perdition left Reznik exposed to be sniped.
Lesson learnt: don't get too caught up in opportunistic Perditioning.
Last game I played Skell. Made a similar silly Perdition mistake in this game, and ended up getting picked off by a Pistol Wraith.
Lesson learnt: learn the previous lesson again!
That was it for the event, and then I played the organiser, DancingPidgeon in a 25 pt game. He played an entirely Jack list and Darius. This was going interesting, but I managed to get an angle on Darius with the Fire of Salvation via Perdition to get a win.
So, 8 games over the weekend, and I learnt quite a few things.
In a charge, people who can't get there can still run. Very handy.
Started to really use the Errants well, and found them excellent.
Still don't like Fire of Salvation with Reznik - too much Skornergy between Iron Aggression and the Imprint.
Hierophant was fantastic with Reznik - that extra point of focus really helps.
Must remember to activate Hierophant to use the cheap spell ability.
Reznik
Fire of Salvation
Errants + UA
Hierophant
First game was a Menoth civil War against Owen, who had brought Kreoss along to the party.Owen actually brought less points than he could have, so he was at a disadvantage, but Kreoss' feat would be a big problem. This turned out to be the case, but Kreoss failed his assassination attempt via spells. This gave Reznik an avenue to charge him the following turn if he could get past a free striking Exemplar. He squeezed by on one wound and put Kreoss on a wrack!
Lesson learnt: KReoss feat is nasty, but needs some ranged weapons to back it up.
Next I played Juffo-Wup with Cygnar, who had Stryker along with a Defender, Strom Blads (Knights - they all looks the same to me). Snipe + Earthquake + Disruption was always going to make this one tough. I tried to get up there as quickly as possible, but an ill-advised attempt to use Perdition left Reznik exposed to be sniped.
Lesson learnt: don't get too caught up in opportunistic Perditioning.
Last game I played Skell. Made a similar silly Perdition mistake in this game, and ended up getting picked off by a Pistol Wraith.
Lesson learnt: learn the previous lesson again!
That was it for the event, and then I played the organiser, DancingPidgeon in a 25 pt game. He played an entirely Jack list and Darius. This was going interesting, but I managed to get an angle on Darius with the Fire of Salvation via Perdition to get a win.
So, 8 games over the weekend, and I learnt quite a few things.
In a charge, people who can't get there can still run. Very handy.
Started to really use the Errants well, and found them excellent.
Still don't like Fire of Salvation with Reznik - too much Skornergy between Iron Aggression and the Imprint.
Hierophant was fantastic with Reznik - that extra point of focus really helps.
Must remember to activate Hierophant to use the cheap spell ability.
Long Weekend Highlander goodness - Chunky part 1
Skell and I both went up to Brisvegas this weekend for some warmachine. We went to Irresistable Force and played there most of the day, then had a 15 point highlander event on the Sunday at Ace Comics and Games.
First game was a 35 pter between me and Skell. Skell busted out his Bane Knights for the first time and they raped face, putting me in a bit of a desperate position. I then had Reznik make a sweet Engine of Destruction, Perdition charge 17" to try and assasinate pGaspy, but rolled a double one to hit for one of the attacks and fell short. Needless to say Gaspy didn't fail next turn.
Lesson learnt: Perdition does actually work sometimes, but my dice still hate me.
I then played a guy called John who had a Skorne army. This was a new experience for me as I'd never played against Hordes before. We had a 25 pter, and it was not going well for me, as I had taken a slow melee based force against a caster with Inhospitable Ground while I had no terrain mitigation. Things looked very grim, but Jhn eventually exposed his caster (XerxeS?) to a charge from Reznik, who made a nice Wrack out of him.
Lesson learnt: Terrain mitigation is a must have.
I played a small Highlander game against Gav Clarke, the owner of IF. I took Reznik, FoS, Bastions and Vilmon vs a 15 pt list for Gav which revolved around the battlebox and some ManoWars. Got unlucky to lose Vilmon first turn to a scattered AOE, and then found out what Boundless Charge does. Gav soon had Sorscha wrap things up personally.
Lesson learnt: Find out if the opponent has a movement spell!
Skell and I had our first 50 pt game at the motel - it was a bit awkward as we played on a circular table about 40" diameter with no terrain. I really can't remember much about the game - even who won?
First game was a 35 pter between me and Skell. Skell busted out his Bane Knights for the first time and they raped face, putting me in a bit of a desperate position. I then had Reznik make a sweet Engine of Destruction, Perdition charge 17" to try and assasinate pGaspy, but rolled a double one to hit for one of the attacks and fell short. Needless to say Gaspy didn't fail next turn.
Lesson learnt: Perdition does actually work sometimes, but my dice still hate me.
I then played a guy called John who had a Skorne army. This was a new experience for me as I'd never played against Hordes before. We had a 25 pter, and it was not going well for me, as I had taken a slow melee based force against a caster with Inhospitable Ground while I had no terrain mitigation. Things looked very grim, but Jhn eventually exposed his caster (XerxeS?) to a charge from Reznik, who made a nice Wrack out of him.
Lesson learnt: Terrain mitigation is a must have.
I played a small Highlander game against Gav Clarke, the owner of IF. I took Reznik, FoS, Bastions and Vilmon vs a 15 pt list for Gav which revolved around the battlebox and some ManoWars. Got unlucky to lose Vilmon first turn to a scattered AOE, and then found out what Boundless Charge does. Gav soon had Sorscha wrap things up personally.
Lesson learnt: Find out if the opponent has a movement spell!
Skell and I had our first 50 pt game at the motel - it was a bit awkward as we played on a circular table about 40" diameter with no terrain. I really can't remember much about the game - even who won?
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